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 Vintage2008 Label 1 of 74 
TypeWhite
ProducerJoh. Jos. Prüm (web)
VarietyRiesling
DesignationKabinett
VineyardWehlener Sonnenuhr
CountryGermany
RegionMosel Saar Ruwer
SubRegionn/a
Appellationn/a
UPC Code(s)082745516411, 4260438320446

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2013 and 2023 (based on 15 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See J.J. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Kabinett on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 90 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 99 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by short and confused on 10/2/2023: White peach and flint on the nose. Light and blanced in the mouth with minty herbs, white flowerswhite orchard fruit and spice. Zesty and salty on the finish. Great wine. (811 views)
 Tasted by bhouk on 3/8/2023: Outstanding. Racy, key lime, mango; burnt marshmallow in the finish. CT says this is my last bottle but I could have sworn I saw a couple more when I pulled this one. If that’s true, I’ll drink another this year and hold one a bit longer — there may be a bit more left in the tank, even if drink now is a pretty good plan. (973 views)
 Tasted by mphatic on 6/22/2022: Cork, 8% alc. AP1709.
Pale steely gold. Soft cork that is a bit soggy. Small bubbles in the bottom of the glass.

Burnt toast, kerosene, citrus, wet slate, white flowers.

Airy and zippy palate. Not quite spritzy but it does almost have an effervescent character. Moderate length, finishing almost dry with some phenolic group. A toasty element emerges on day two along with greater fruit concentration.

Delicious when consumed closer to room temperature. (31 views)
 Tasted by hermitkingdom on 12/25/2021 & rated 93 points: Light tropical notes to the majority citrus, a touch candied. Very little petrol and still relatively primary. Wonderful, crystalline structure. Sweetness perfectly integrated along with acid. (1816 views)
 Tasted by drwine2001 on 10/8/2021: Replacement for a corked Emrich-Schonleber. Clear light greenish yellow with slight residual spritz. Light, racy lime and guava. Minimal residual sugar-an old fashioned proper Kabinett. Ooh is this zesty and good. Another decade easily in front of it if you choose to wait for more maturity.

More orange peel the second night, slightly sweeter, and just dripping with slate. Love this bottle. (2501 views)
 Tasted by rieslinghoarder on 1/20/2021 & rated 92 points: Petrol, lime, peach pit, smoke, and a touch of honey. Light and playful on the palate, with fresh acidity lifting the fruit notes on the midpalate and finish. Very happy to get a glimpse into what a JJP kabinett is like with 10+ years of bottle age, from an "anonymous" donor. (2809 views)
 Tasted by acyso on 2/24/2020 flawed bottle: Dinner at MingHin (Chicago, IL): #17-09, 8% abv. Corked. (4100 views)
 Tasted by Tikkanen on 12/31/2019 & rated 91 points: It smells like lime, mineral, stoniness, honey and diesel. It tastes like lime, pineapple, honey, mineral and stoniness. The body is light/medium. The wine has smooth texture. The wine finishes medium. The wine has medium acidity. More fruit than mineral and stone. Lighter than expected. Some of us though it was a bit to sweet. Perfect in my taste. Fantastic to salmon tartar with sesamoil, onion, lime (2493 views)
 Tasted by bhouk on 11/9/2018: Debonair — lean, sophisticated palate of stony minerals, lime and lemon. Subtle and understated, possibly to a fault. Very fine but I wouldn’t mind seeing a little more presence. (2356 views)
 Tasted by cardsandwine on 7/4/2018: This has added depth and complexity to the bracing acidity and mineral notes of my last bottle 4 years ago. Round and delicious wine with plenty of years ahead. (2673 views)
 Tasted by chablis28 on 6/9/2018 & rated 92 points: At 10 yrs old my last and best btl ever. Palish gold with fresher nose and palate then I remember. The heavy petrol of earlier btls has largely dissipated and the palate tonight more expansive and complex. Still very youthfully light colored and fresh with vibrant fruit and slate flavors. Now, I wish I had one or 2 more perfectly stored btls from this vintage. 92pts+ 8% alc (3003 views)
 Tasted by Senso-beak on 5/13/2018 & rated 88 points: Opened for Mother's Day 2018 - after a nice hike and paired with hoisin chicken. Light and lively, pale straw color. Deft, with slight petrol, cut grass, hay, botrytis nose. Sweet but not overly so. Somewhat simplistic but certainly enjoyable. A nice Kabinett. I'm tending towards the sweeter classifications over time. Certainly excellent however. (2058 views)
 Tasted by jwsobeck on 3/29/2018 & rated 90 points: Super enjoyable. A touch sweeter than expected, very nice acidity, minute amount of petrol/plastic. (2478 views)
 Tasted by pavel_p on 12/9/2017 & rated 90 points: Light golden yellow in the glass. Pleasant, fairly sweet and moderately complex Kabinett. (2580 views)
 Tasted by chablis28 on 11/30/2017 & rated 90 points: Solid Riesling Kabinett. I prefer mine a little fresher and brighter. This does have complexity but the petrol and rounder weighty feel skips a beat for my palate. After this I have one more Prum and likely won't reload this producer. That said I'm a Chardonnay / Chablis / White Burg lover and Riesling really isn't my thing most of the time. (2166 views)
 Tasted by anstruletz on 10/8/2017 & rated 91 points: Just starting to show secondary flavors and tropical aromas. Delicious (1958 views)
 Tasted by johneagle on 4/9/2017 & rated 90 points: Beautiful. Not showing a hint of age. Light and ethereal (3010 views)
 Tasted by Collector1855 on 2/7/2017 & rated 93 points: Tasted during a matter of taste walkabout, so only brief impressions. Wonderful minerality, length and a touch sweetness. A really nice Kabinett, wow, for that price. Even better, but also a notch higher in price was the outstanding 2007 Spatlsese. A very convincing showing from JJ Prum today. (3541 views)
 Tasted by JohanPe on 3/5/2016 & rated 91 points: Lovely nose. Pear, tropical fruits, white flowers, elder, mango, balanced sweetness and smooth minerality. Light weighted palate with early maturity, medium acidity, still fresh and vibrant but past the youngest stage. Wonderful balance, again that's what's most striking. The fruit outpowers the acidity on the palate but this wine has many years left before it's starting to develop into something else. Hold or drink, can't go wrong here imo. Equally good day 2, perhaps a bit better, showing more of that early maturity, even some petrol. Great wine. (4233 views)
 Tasted by concord on 12/31/2015: Drank over a few days over the holidays. Drinking very well and kept well once opened. Lovely acidity and long finish, no hurry to drink up remaining bottles. (4090 views)
 Tasted by petitblanc on 11/27/2015 & rated 92 points: Similar to previous bottle, pleasant spritz, minimal sulfur, quite dry, nice balance. (4167 views)
 Tasted by wineismylife on 9/1/2015 & rated 91 points: WIML91

Tasted non blind.

Light yellow color in the glass, clear looking throughout. Nose of petrol, peach and yellow pears. Flavors of peach, lime and lemon. Bright acidity, medium body. Drink or hold. (4032 views)
 Tasted by aslan-m on 8/29/2015 & rated 92 points: Overnight decant in frig. (3639 views)
 Tasted by petitblanc on 8/27/2015 & rated 92 points: Madison Offline 2015; 8/27/2015-8/29/2015: Beautiful pale, crystalline lemon color, just a slight spritz initially. Broad yet precise nose, flinty, slightly oily, faint citrus. Very light on the palate, almost delicate, with fading acidity, stone fruits and a citrus undertone that keeps this lively. Short. Overall a pleasingly clean and refreshing Kabinett, both chilled and as it warmed to room temperature, probably a bit short on depth and vinous structure for some palates. (2866 views)
 Tasted by Ricardohd on 7/31/2015 & rated 90 points: Still somewhat reductive nose, even after 24 hours in the decanter, in the fridge. Some petrol, mineral notes too. Not very much sweetness on palate; decent fruit for a kab; acidity integrated. The perfect aperitif and clearly has much longer to run. Wish I had more than a case. (2307 views)
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Professional 'Channels'
By Jean Fisch and David Rayer
Mosel Fine Wines, Maturing Mosel: 10 years after retrospective of 2008, Issue #40 (4/1/2018)
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By Jean Fisch and David Rayer
Mosel Fine Wines, Maturing Mosel: 10 years after retrospective of 2008, Issue #40 (4/1/2018)
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By Julia Harding, MW
JancisRobinson.com (6/2/2010)
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By Joel B. Payne
Vinous, January/February 2010, IWC Issue #148
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By Jean Fisch and David Rayer
Mosel Fine Wines, Jun 2009, Issue No 8
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By Jon Rimmerman
Garagiste (7/7/2009)
(WEHL-SONN Kabinett JJ PRUM) 2008 JJ Prum Dear Friends, Held to the highest standard, the portfolio from JJ Prum must over-deliver in every vintage - I am happy to report, the low pradikat 2008's are among the finest wines Manfred Prum has produced since the 2001's. In a nutshell, the 2008 vintage is one for lovers of Kabinett and Spatlese. Auslese exists but it was not easy going at the high sugar levels. The vintage shines a very bright light on Kabinett (as it did in 2007) but the 2008's are more taut and nervous than the 2007's, without the slightly dreamy quality to the best 2007 wines. 2008 is a vintage that will be preferred by classicists and terroir lovers as each vineyard really shows itself all the way to the trocken and GG wines. If you are a fan of 2001, 2004 and 2007 White Burgundy, the 2008 Mosel vintage shows a similar transparent hand with a deceptive streak of brute power woven through the nervous middle. Where 2005 and 2006 are for lovers of Auslese and above, 2007 and 2008 have provided the type of Riesling that Mosel lovers have been waiting patiently for - rocky, citric and shimmering with a palate cleansing property that is the true essence of German Riesling. Vintners such as Olivier Haag and Johannes Selbach let out a big sigh of relief when discussing 2008 - the common phrase is something like "It's about time!" Normally, we would focus on the JJ Prum Spatlese and Auslese but not in 2008. While the 2008 Spatlese wines are fabulous from this house, the entire range of Kabinett steals the show and all are well worth your exploration (and then some). While not inexpensive, compared to Donnhoff and other producers that have crept up in price, I am quite confident in making a very strong recommendation with all three wines below. Ideally, it would be best to compare all three in a side-by-side situation but each will certainly sparkle on its own. All are VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: 2008 JJ Prum Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Kabinett 2008 JJ Prum Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Kabinett 2008 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Kabinett Thank you, Jon Rimmerman Garagiste Seattle, WA Germ1299 Germ1298 Germ1297
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Joh. Jos. Prüm

Producer website | Importer website | More information on Prüm Goldkapsel wines
Manfred Prüm runs one of the Mosel’s, if not the whole of Germany’s, most revered and respected Estates. It is also amongst the most enigmatic as no-one has yet made it down to his mysterious cellars. Manfred is certainly one of the world’s more eccentric wine producers and a tasting in his drawing room with him is always enjoyable and entertaining. In the Sonnenuhr of Wehlen he owns a portion of one of the Mittel Mosel’s top vineyards. Its steep south-facing dark slate slopes tend to result in deeply flavoured, mineral yet rich and smoky wines. In addition, he manipulates some plots in the next door Himmelreich of Graach which produces engaging wines with fresh acidities that are slightly softer and earlier maturing. These are unashamedly classic, exciting and long-lived wines produced predominantly in stainless tanks to avoid the addition of too much sulphur, though a small proportion of wooden casks are retained, however, depending on the vintage. They are bottled later than most Mosel and often take a few years in bottle before showing the true character, but patience will be rewarded!
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It may be of help to users of this site if the AP number is recorded with every tasting note. The producer makes several essentially identical AP number bottlings separately registered, however. Thus, the standard bottlings need not be identified in the head of the article but any differences between AP numbers can thus be noted in the tasting write-ups.
This is one of the houses where, except for very tiny extra-late or auction bottlings, the AP numbers have little meaning, so there is no reason to have many different identities to several of what are the same wine--just makes the information harder to access. This is one of the very few houses that I'd argue this way. jht

Riesling

Varietal character (Appellation America) | A short history of Riesling (Uncork) | Riesling (wikipedia)

Kabinett

Lowest must sugar content of Prädikat designation resulting in light wines, typically semi-sweet with crisp acidity.

Wehlener Sonnenuhr

Lagenbeschreibung:
Sonnenuhr errichtet 1842 durch Jodocus Prüm; Lage trägt Namen seit Beginn des 20. Jahrhunderts. Optimale Süd-Süd-West-Exposition, Steilheit bis zu 60%, gute Wasserversorgung. Faktoren bieten beste Reifebedingungen, sind Grundlage für Erzeugung von Weinen von besonderer Eleganz, Feinheit & Ausdruck.

Boden:
Devonschiefer-Verwitterungsboden; in other words, a light friable (easily breakable) greyish-blue slate with some ferric muddiness between layers. Source--personal observation of site. jh

Layer description:
Sundial erected in 1842 by Jodocus Prüm; Lage has had names since the beginning of the 20th century. Optimal south-southwest exposure, steepness up to 60%, good water supply. Factors offer the best ripening conditions, are the basis for the production of wines of particular elegance, delicacy and expression.

Exact position on weinlagen.info

Germany

Wines of Germany | The Association of German Prädikat Wine Estates (VDP) | How to read a German wine label | Geographical Information Down to Single Vineyards

#2014 Vintage Notes:
2014 Vintage Report by Terry Theise
2014 Vintage Report by Wine Spectator
"My gut still tells me the Saar (and to some extent) the Ruwer are better overall in 2014 than the more storied areas of the Mosel proper, but those that spent the requisite time living in their middle-Mosel vineyards made some of the most electric and "feathery" Riesling in a long time (maybe the finest in 20 years - yes, it's true!)" - Jon Rimmerman (Of course only a very short historical memory would call the Saar and Ruwer less 'storied' than the middle Mosel - jht)

Mosel Saar Ruwer

Starting in 2007 the German wine authorities have changed labeling laws to rename all of the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wines to just "Mosel." This puts this and other database driven sites in a difficult spot, as millions of old wine label reflect the former labeling. As described here, CellarTracker has elected to remain with the old labeling for a number of years to avoid confusion. At some point we will switch over to just "Mosel" but not for a few years at least.
Mosel WeinKulturland (Moselwein e.V.)

Detailed geographical information at weinlagen.info

#2018 Vintage Notes:
"Acid levels are relatively low throughout Riesling-growing Europe (acidification will once again be permitted in Germany – no surprise, as that’s been the case in eight of the last 10 vintages); but because malic acid was baked off or degraded by relentlessly balmy weather means, what acid remains is overwhelmingly of the efficacious tartaric sort. Extract levels are low, as one would anticipate from a growing season during which relatively little moisture was coursing through the vine’s roots and shoots. [...] Everyone is astonished how there could have been so much juice despite the drought." - David Schildknecht
"2018 is a homogenous vintage with a very high general level, below which it seldom falls [...] It leads with blossom. It is perhaps 80% delicious and 20% fascinating." - Terry Theise

#2017 Vintage Notes:
"not so friendly towards light wines" - Milkmansteve

#2016 Vintage Notes: "Overall, 2016 is a charmer of a vintage with much immediate ripe and fruity appeal, not unlike 2011 (in fresher) or 2007 (in lighter). However, 2016 is far from being homogeneous, in fact it is composed of a mosaic of vintages, a result of the freakish growing conditions. Hidden inside the vintage, there are true gems with the balance of 1997, one of the best vintages ever, 2002 or even 2008. The bulk of the harvest was brought in with refreshingly moderate sugar levels. Overall, the Saar and Ruwer produced slightly fresher wines than the Middle Mosel but there are great differences between Estates. The good harvest conditions allowed for some Auslese, little BA and even TBA wines, but some remarkably pure and fruity Eiswein.
In general, 2016 offers the opportunity to acquire Riesling with great immediate ripe appeal: The vintage is a true charmer. At the top, 2016 is one of the most exciting and elegantly balanced vintage since the 1990s and well-worth stocking up for cellaring! In particular, we urge our readers to literally plunge onto the finest Kabinett and Spätlese: These are some of the most exciting and classic we have ever tasted. 2016 looks also set to become a major vintage for dry Riesling, provided the aromatics are not overripe. Lovers of dessert wines will find much to love in 2016 as the Auslese are pure and the Eiswein are gorgeously fruity. They should however also keep an eye open for the remaining stunning noble-sweet wines from 2015 which are still available here and there." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 36, July 2017

#2014 Vintage Notes:
"The heterogeneity of the 2014 vintage carries over onto the aging process. The top wines start to close down, as one would expect from these wines which are a remake of those from the 1990s. The wines affected by gin, saffron and mushroom flavors are still comparatively open and offer a not unattractive Scheurebe styled fruit opulence. We would opt to drink up these lesser wines except for the odd bottle and bury the little treasures of the vintage deep into the cellar." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 30, March 2016

#2013 Vintage Notes:
"The fruity-styled 2013 wines have firmed up significantly since last year and start to show signs of closing down, making the underlying acidity seemingly sharp and out of balance. The better dry wines have come out of their early armor of smoke and tannin but the acidity may prove quite challenging. Quite frankly, except for some smaller bottlings, this is a vintage to lay down and wait." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2012 Vintage Notes:
"The 2012 wines have put on some flesh and go through a 'fattier' phase which is not unlike what the 2007 went through at the same period. However, the zestier acidity cuts through this 'weight' and makes the wines thoroughly enjoyable at this early stage. In particular the fruity Kabinett and Spatlese as well as the off-dry and dry wines offer much pleasure. We expect these wines to close down over the coming year or two. Enjoy while it lasts!" - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2011 Vintage Notes:
"A bit to our surprise, the 2011 wines have shut down and go through a quite difficult and muted phase now. Their low acidity combined with their maturity makes them feel rich, opulent and often bulky, and thus not really enjoyable. We expect that these will need at least a decade to integrate their sweetness and gain in harmony. The only exception is the dry wines, whose low acidity makes for great food companionship." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2010 Vintage Notes:
"After a mellower period in 2012, many 2010 wines have firmed up and developed a stronger smoky side. However, most continue to shine through their fruit opulence, structure and deliciously zesty but ripe acidity. This suits in particular the off-dry bottlings, which have more charm than the legally dry wines. Will these wines close down? Actually, the softening acidity makes us wonder now but it also provides further evidence that these wines will turn out harmonious after all." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2009 Vintage Notes:
"Most 2009 wines have closed down, which accentuates their round and soft side forward. Many can still be quite enjoyable but the times of primary fruit with its attractive aromatic expression and a generous acidic kick are now over. Except for the dry wines, we would definitely recommend keeping your hands off any bottle in your cellar and possibly buying more wines from this vintage on the market as these are true gems in the making." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

 
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