2016 Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco

Community Tasting Note

20 comments have been posted

• Comment posted by sleepyhaus:

  8/21/2020 8:53:00 PM - For what it is worth, I think these need a lot of time to show their stuff. I was unimpressed as well but my experience with Produttori and what I've heard in interviews with Aldo, who runs the Produttori, I expect it will be great. My apologies if you have experience with this producer and still find this unimpressive, but if you do not I highly recommend giving this a significant amount of time before passing a final judgment.

• Comment posted by jordanj:

  8/21/2020 9:03:00 PM - Thanks sleepyhaus. I have not had much experience with Produttori with any age. Mostly via wine shop tastings and passed. I am optimistic that this release will benefit from 5+ years sitting still. I do think it has potential. That is the beauty of wine collecting. Chasing the most opportune time to open something.

• Comment posted by Vinomazing:

  8/21/2020 10:29:00 PM - Hi...patience stinks sometimes! True reward may be about 10 yrs away...should be worth its price and then some, prob not mind/blowing but beautiful it will be. Its a long haul and more so due to the vintage, but if can store ‘em well try 3 at markers 2025, 2030, and 2035 for a great experience, and follow others on CT along the years to see how it is developing...cheers

• Comment posted by Mhbeaune:

  8/22/2020 12:45:00 AM - This is what makes Cellar Tracker such a great tool. To follow tasting notes, read comments and benefit from each other’s insight. Points and no tasting note or comments are a complete waste of space. I’ve no experience of Produttori at all and like you purchased a case purely on reading CT notes and will really enjoy waiting and reading until i am curious enough to taste from about 2025 .

• Comment posted by Vinomazing:

  8/22/2020 1:16:00 AM - Agree, CT is fantastik. In case anyone is seeking inexpensive finds, the "Cigliuti Barbaresco Vie Erte" and "Giuseppe Nada Barbaresco Casot" may be 2 other good 2016's to check out under $40...a great vintage for Nebbiolo!

• Comment posted by jonathanknowles:

  8/22/2020 8:59:00 AM - About the price point, what does this cost in the US (assuming you're there)?

• Comment posted by Mhbeaune:

  8/22/2020 9:03:00 AM - In the uk GB it is currently £21 in bond so about £27 delivered

• Comment posted by jonathanknowles:

  8/22/2020 10:41:00 AM - Thanks. So I've only ever bought this directly from Produttori and the 2015 and 2016 were €25 if I remember correctly, so the UK price is fair, I just wondered if people had been disappointed in this because it was more expensive in the US.

• Comment posted by srh:

  8/22/2020 10:43:00 AM - jonathan, as of this moment there are numerous U.S. sources in the $38-$39 range, with 1 outlier @ $36.

• Comment posted by srh:

  8/22/2020 10:54:00 AM - jordanj, my guess is that this BUT *needs* cellaring through '23, even a decanting on 2/15/20 not doing much to loosen it. :) [FYI, *should* you be interested, I've entered specific info for this vintage, including acclaim, which can be accessed via the CellarTracker Article link (lower lft)].

• Comment posted by Vinomazing:

  8/22/2020 12:13:00 PM - Creeping up in price here in US; 2014s & 2015s could be had for $30-$36 range...2016s have been in the $38-$44 range...US tariffs may be to blame if they were applied to this bottling.

• Comment posted by srh:

  8/22/2020 1:06:00 PM - Vinomazing, since tariffs AREN'T on Italian wines, do you mean some Italian wineries are raising their prices because foreign competitors are being forced up? At any rate, your putting a range for older vintages reminded me of the site where I had info for 1 ea of the '11 & '12 that I purchased @ COSTCO: $25.99 ea on 8/25/16!

• Comment posted by Vinomazing:

  8/22/2020 1:39:00 PM - Aha! Good to know SRH, was not sure of tariffs exactly, thanks for info. I wld prob rather not know which bottles paying those crappy taxes on so can sleep better lol.
  
  Makes sense for the winery, and comparatively still a value Barbaresco, but Wow I do remember it in the $20s, and now in the $40s within 4-5 vintages!! And the 2015 riservas were hitting $75 some places, when they were $55 for 2013s & 2014s.
  
  Remember when gasoline and cigarettes were under $1?!

• Comment posted by srh:

  8/22/2020 2:01:00 PM - "Remember when gasoline and cigarettes were under $1?!" Yes, sadly I do. ;)

• Comment posted by mphatic:

  8/23/2020 2:34:00 AM - In Australia, these 2016s can be found for USD50 at best, though typically more like USD60. While that’s still good value against other Barbaresco, there are a lot of very good local wines that can be bought for that price. From that perspective, I agree with some of the other TNs that have questioned the VFM in recent times.

• Comment posted by srh:

  8/23/2020 11:57:00 AM - "...typically more like USD60. While that’s still good value against other Barbaresco, there are a lot of very good local wines that can be bought for that price." VERY well put, mphatic! :)

• Comment posted by Mhbeaune:

  8/24/2020 1:04:00 AM - Half the pleasure for me is to still find wine at an everyday price that gives me pleasure and i don’t mind having it in good storage. Use to have a cellar now just 3 liebherr wine fridges, which are excellent. I enjoy keeping my inventory, sort of, up to date, doing research and anticipating.

• Comment posted by Vinomazing:

  8/24/2020 8:52:00 PM - Yes $50-60 is quite high, probably would also pass on if they were that much here. Curious why so much in Aus?

• Comment posted by mphatic:

  8/24/2020 9:43:00 PM - Taxes, typically. Most imported wine is expensive. If I were to travel into the country with more wine than my duty free limit, I would be hit with more than 45% in taxes.

• Comment posted by Mhbeaune:

  8/24/2020 10:23:00 PM - At this price level taxes in uk are about 30%,