5/14/24, 8:43 PM - I think most of the better 2016 Châteauneuf-du-Pape will be at least 10 years before they even start to show their best. The 2010 are hitting their stride now.
4/28/24, 10:15 PM - I think quite of few of the higher scoring "05s have needed every bit of the almost 20 years in bottle to really start showing their stuff. And some will likely need another 5-10 years to reach max.
4/20/24, 8:39 AM - Chiseled? One of those oft-used wine words that leaves me pondering. One thinks of chiseling marble when sculpting. Are you saying the '20 Mouchère is lacking in minerality? Or did you find it lacking in some other facet?
9/9/23, 4:59 PM - Lol! I'm just hoping I have another 15 years! I've got 5 bottles of the '10, 7 bottles of the '09, and 4 bottles of the '05 sitting in my wine locker, and I'm trying to give them all at least 5 more years.
4/13/24, 3:16 PM - How is the 2010 vielle vignes comparing to thr '09?
2/26/24, 12:06 PM - Totally agree with you - love Henri Boillot' wines, especially the Whites. Although I've had both, I've not yet done a side-by-side tasting with Boillot's 2017 Clos de la Mouchère and Les Pucelles. Have you had a chance to do so?
2/20/24, 5:28 PM - Josh, it looks like you've had both the '09 and '10 fairly recently. If you were opening only one for a wine dinner, which is more open and ready to go? Thanks! Gary
2/20/24, 5:48 PM - Thanks!
1/14/24, 8:35 AM - Thanks! When using the phone App, sometimes the rating "slide" doesn't stay put. Score adjusted.
10/14/23, 9:36 AM - Agree that 2000 may not be the best QPR vintage, but I'm in the camp that firmly believes 2000 is easily the best Bordeaux vintage between 1990 and 2005. Given how massive some of the '05s seem, one may extend that claim thru '09. I think the 2000s have gotten somewhat lost in the hype of '09 and '10 and, especially, the recent run of excellent vintage starting with '15 (esp. Right Bank/Margaux/Pessoc) and '16. (Has Bordeaux ever had so many great vintages in such a short span as '16, '18, '19, and '20?!?)Whar I think many miss about the 2000 Calon is that it was at that time, and throughout the '90s, a much more rustic (or "classic", if you will, expression than what many have become used to with the vintages of the last 10-12 or so years.
10/5/23, 2:32 PM - Nice note. Did you decant this for any length of time before drinking?
10/3/23, 8:17 PM - Did you decant? I've been thinking about opening this for NYE.
10/3/23, 8:16 PM - I would have guessed this to still be very young. Was this already in a good drinking window?
10/3/23, 8:08 PM - Just opened a bottle and totally agree - in a great spot right now.
9/24/23, 9:19 PM - I thought of you as I was drinking this, Mark!
9/24/23, 3:12 PM - Jeff, I'm planning to open a bottle of the '96 Latour in a couple of weeks. Did you give your bottle a decant of any length? (Or just for sediment right before drinking?) Thanks!
9/24/23, 5:57 PM - Thank you, Jeff!
8/5/23, 9:48 PM - Enjoyed your note immensely, especially the internal debate over the "Grand Cru" quality. Since I can't really afford to play in the Montrachet sandbox (okay, maybe I could, but taking out the home equity line is just too much paperwork!), Boillot's Clos de la Mouchère has become the "Grsnd Cru" White Burgundy of my cellar. I found a decent source and was able to pick up just over 3 cases of the 2020 (before prices effectively doubled), I'm excited, both to start comparing this to prior vintages (especially '14, '17, and '19), and also to see how this evolves over the next decade. I'm just hoping Boillot's addition of the wax capsule, as annoying as it is to corkscrew through, acts as something of a barrier against pre-mox.
8/10/23, 7:11 AM - csimm, I'm in agreement with you on wishing Boillot would switch to Diam, although I'm also curious as to whether the wax capsules (added, I think, with the '17 vintage) will (or are intended to) provide the same benefit to ward off premox as Diam would. (If I'm writing a wish list, my "green" side wishes Boillot would go away from the extra-heavy bottles, which are also a pain to store!)I started buying Clos de la Mouchère first in '14, and then picked up '16, '17, and '18, before buying more broadly across the Boillot range with '19. I know Boillot was something of a poster-child for premox, but either they've gotten a handle on things or I've been lucky as everything from those 4 vintages have been pre-mox free. But like most folks, I'm almost certainly drinking these younger than would allow them to hit their full potential, which I guess is the risk/ reward game we all play these days with White Burgs. But, damn are these good wines! LiteItOnFire, I skipped buying the 2021 vintage entirely (although I probably should have bought at least a 6-pack of the Mouchère just to keep my vertical going). But that should in no way be viewed as an indictment of any of Boillot's '21s. I think the quality in 2021 is just a notch or two below the '20s, and I don't think Boillot makes a bad (or even an average wine; they also don't get enough credit for their Red, which are overshadowed by the Whites). I skipped buying '21 simply because (i) the late, wide-spread frost impacted quantities, and therefore prices, so much, and (ii) early reports showed 2022 to be both a very good to excellent vintage for quality, PLUS a very good year for quantity, which should help blunt some pricing impact. But if you are looking for '21 suggestions, I'd look for Boillot's monoploles - the Clos de la Mouchère and the Richmont, but be forewarned that the pricing spikes from the 2020 vintage likely also impacted the '21s. As an example, I bought my '20 Mouchère at around $130/bottle for 1st tranche and $145/bottle for 2nd tranche; current offers on the '20 (if you can even find it), are at least 2x that, if not more. My random offers seem to have the '20 Mouchère priced on par with, or above, a lot of other producers' Corton-Charlemagne.
8/5/23, 9:24 PM - Why would you downgrade a wine, particularly a Champagne, for how it holds up on Day 2? I appreciate it when folks mention this in the context of, say, a very young Bordeaux or Burgundy, as that might provide some insight on where the wine's future might lie (especially if the taster discerned noticeable improvement on Day 2). But not sure I understand why you would expect a Champagne to improve on Day 2 or, more importantly, discount your view of it if it does not.
5/4/23, 8:33 PM - I'm a bit surprised - did this not have any of the trademark Pegau "funk" that's usually so exclusive?
5/5/23, 7:46 AM - Totally serious - some folks perceive what is often described as "barnyard" in Pegau. (I was born and raised in Iowa, so that's a positive descriptor for me!) I suspect it's mostly the Brett to those who are particularly sensitive. Brett often seems more prevalent (or at least more overtly noticable) in Châteauneuf-du-Pape, generally. But I'm in the camp that Pegau's Cuvee Reservee is, year-in and year-out, one of the great price/quality buys in fine wine.
5/2/23, 8:43 PM - Any decant? I assume this is still on the early side of its drinking window.
5/3/23, 7:06 AM - Thanks for the follow-up, Craig! Sounds like it may finally be time to pull my case of 2000 Barton out of the wine locker!
3/28/23, 10:13 PM - 1998 was actually a VERY strong vintage for the Right Bank of Bordeaux and the Pessac.
3/19/23, 9:39 PM - Thanks, Dave. The advice is much appreciated! Gary
2/21/23, 8:55 PM - Along with Pegau's Cuvee Reservee, Donjon is one of my favorite CdPape. And the 2010 was a killer vintage for both.
2/21/23, 8:54 PM - Great note on the '96. Did you decant it for any length of time?
2/21/23, 8:51 PM - I'm pleasantly surprised this was already showing so well. I was planning on letting this sit for a few years to come together. Looking forward to trying the '20 side-by-side with the '19.
2/5/23, 5:09 PM - That's a shame the '10 wasn't showing well. I did a mini vertical of the the '09, '10, and '14 Bonneau Martray Corton-Charlemagne with friends at the Inn at Little Washington. All were very good, but the '10 was clearly the brightest star of the trio and was outstanding.
1/20/23, 8:51 PM - If it gained weight with time, doesn't that indicate it still being rather young?
1/14/23, 8:30 PM - Tough grader!
10/17/22, 10:29 PM - Tasting note of the Year! Almost enough to make me break into my first case!
1/12/23, 8:35 AM - It's stunning how quickly the prices of the 2019 and 2020 Boillot Clos de la Mouchère have escalated. (With small supply from the smallish-yields in '19 and '20 certainly bring exacerbated by the devastating frost of 2021.) But the best price for either vintage now looks to be $230/bottle, with not much available.
12/25/22, 5:42 PM - Thanks, and totally agree - it's s great holiday wine as it goes so well with many of the traditional holiday favorites. Somewhere along the line (probably after the '03 vintage), I realized a case (or more!) of the Pegau Reservee should be an annual purchase.
12/23/22, 9:14 PM - After having a few bottles of the '03, I came to the realization that a case of Pegau should generally be an annual purchase. The '09 only confirmed that view.
12/23/22, 9:11 PM - My plan was to not touch any of my '15 or '16 Bordeaux (I have a case of Canon from both years), until at least the 10 year mark. But is this drinking well already?
12/19/22, 10:31 PM - I would add 2003, which I've loved. And I think somewhere in the 5 to 10 year range, we'll both also be including 2016.
12/15/22, 10:01 PM - For a Barolo in this 10 to 15 year age range, do you generally decant at all, or open ahead of time and allow to slow-ox, or just pop and pour?
12/15/22, 9:57 PM - Did you decant at all?
12/7/22, 8:37 PM - Nice note, but this must be a baby! (I yet to open any of my 2019 Clos de la Mouchère!)
12/14/22, 3:02 PM - Duh! Should have noticed! (But I do have 1 bottle left of the 2010, so it was STILL a very note!)
12/13/22, 9:45 PM - Great note! I managed to get 6 bottles of both the '19 and '20, and have been trying hard to be very patient to allow them to gain some bottle age before popping one.
12/12/22, 9:41 PM - Looking forward to trying them side'by-side in a couple years, after they get some bottle age.
12/11/22, 9:11 PM - I'm awaiting a Spring delivery of a case of each of Boillot's 2020 Meursault and Puligny-Montrachet. I'm very much looking forward to a side-by-side comparison tasting.
12/4/22, 9:19 PM - Great review, and I concur whole-heartedly. Sadly, I think I'm down to my last 2 or 3 bottles of the '09. Fortunately, I've still got a case or two of the '10 left, which should be even better in a few more years.
11/20/22, 2:22 PM - Lol! Mark, I TOTALLY agree. But these guys are OLD SCHOOL Bordeaux collectors, whose palates are more attuned to Bordeaux from the '60s/'70s/80s. (To them, anything from the '90s is still far too young to drink.) So to their palate, I can understand how the '03 Cos (which you and I both love) tastes "hot". That level of ripeness is just not something with which they grew up. Just like anything from the '70s, to me, tastes "dusty" and lacking in fruit. I think the vastly differing ripeness levels starting around 2000 or so will strike many old school Bordeaux collectors quite differently than they do to something like me, who really didn't start drinking classified growth Bordeaux until the '95/'96 vintages.
11/17/22, 9:31 PM - I know that the Chevillon Vaucrains can take quite some time to hit its peak. Is the '14 approachable now, or would you give this more time?
11/17/22, 9:28 PM - Kevin, for current consumption, how long of a decant would you suggest for the '96 Las Cases?
11/14/22, 2:57 PM - Jeff, any thoughts as to how the '15 and '16 rank alongside the '18/'19/'20 trio? (By any objective measure, I'm unlikely to see the 2019 at anywhere near its peak. But thanks to a too-good-to-pass-up price at Costco, I now get to play actuarial roulette with 3 bottles.)
11/12/22, 9:47 PM - I think you likely noticed some bitterness from the sediment. My last few bottles have been very good, with lots of fruit showing.
11/12/22, 9:42 PM - CSIMM, any idea for how long your friend decanted this prior to drinking? I'm considering popping this for my NYE wine.
11/12/22, 9:35 PM - Thanks for taking one for the Team. I've been afraid to touch my '19s, let alone dig into the 2020s. I think the two of them will be a very fun comparative testing someday.
11/5/22, 11:04 PM - So, you're saying you liked this? (Jk!) I've got 6 bottles that I've been sitting on. I'm going to try to give them 5 or so more years.
10/23/22, 7:33 PM - Did you decant? If so, how long before it emerged?
10/23/22, 8:52 PM - Thanks - nice to know. I'm generally a bit unsure as to whether decanting Barolo is a plus or minus.
10/23/22, 7:31 PM - Had a dinner with a friend where we opened the '09, '10, and the '14, and the '10 was stunning. Easily one of the best White Burgs I've ever had. The '14 was a close second and I'm hoping (if pre-mox doesn't get it) it will surpass the '10.
10/21/22, 8:53 PM - Any thoughts on whether the wax capsule that Boillot added will add a layer of prevention to the premox problem? My Boillot experience only goes back to the '14 Mouchère (his Mouchère being my favorite white anywhere), but so far no issues with anything opened from my cellar.
10/17/22, 10:33 PM - I've been thinking of popping one of these. How much more time would you suggest letting this rest?
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