4/5/24, 11:53 AM - I searched the front and back label but unfortunately could not find a disgorgement date.
6/21/23, 11:37 AM - Good choices.
5/28/23, 9:17 PM - Yes, I don’t think California Pinots are built to age, with few exceptions. At their best usually between ages four and eight.
5/25/23, 10:21 AM - I cannot say for sure but that is definitely a possibility.
2/9/23, 8:32 AM - Hello MPI. I would say 10 years before the secondary flavors emerge and 20 to bloom fully. But if you prefer bright and juicy fruit you can certainly greatly enjoy it now. It’s all about personal preference so no wrong answers.
2/9/23, 8:49 PM - Maybe 20 for my taste but most Bordeaux lovers would say 5-10.
1/16/23, 12:53 PM - Seth, all the bottles were mine. None sourced from Wine Watch. Most from auctions in California or New York. All looked good before opening.
12/17/22, 9:56 AM - Yes, the photo shows that it was very top shoulder, just below neck. It was a WineBid purchase.
8/27/22, 9:51 PM - Thanks; I have no experience with Stony Hill. I was hoping to find an older example but was unable.
7/31/22, 10:01 AM - This was my sixth time tasting this wine from a parcel I purchased on release and stored professionally. Previous bottles have been good to excellent with the best showing in 2012. I’m beginning to think the wine is past its best.
6/26/22, 1:22 PM - Thanks for comments. Yes, this was a purchase from a few years ago. The bottle looked great with a base neck fill. I decanted it 5 hrs. in advance. All the bottles of ‘86 Mouton from many sources I have had in the last couple of decades have been uninspiring except one. So there is a great deal of bottle variation for this vintage.
7/17/22, 1:24 PM - Glad to know my bottle was an outlier and there are much better ones out there. Maybe I should try it again before giving up on it.
4/21/22, 7:41 AM - Oh, thanks for correction; I fixed it. My note from last year was correct but my memory was faulty 😳.
4/3/17, 4:17 PM - Congratulations on having a bottle of '82 Margaux, a variable but potentially great wine. I do not give any Bordeaux of this age time in a carafe although I do decant off the sediment. As for longevity, bottles of '82 Margaux like this one should be drunk within the next 5 years but I have had more youthful ones that could last 10 - 15 more years but not improve. If you have one, do not hesitate to open it soon. Happy drinking.
2/26/22, 8:48 PM - Interesting perspective, JJYoyo. I tasted the ‘62 tonight, which was also weak but maybe a bit better than the ‘61. A ‘59 recently was also undistinguished and tired. The ‘70s was not a good decade for the Château until 1978. Agree that the variable ‘82 and the excellent ‘83 still have plenty of life. The ‘53 was my Bordeaux epiphany but that was many years ago. Glad your experience has been better.
12/13/21, 9:13 PM - ???
10/28/21, 7:11 PM - It does seem too good to be true, doesn’t it? My parcel of 6 bottles was from an OWC which the merchant in California I knew well had hand carried himself back from France approximately 25 years ago. I purchased it shortly after he acquired it. The label, cork and capsule all looked correct. And since Nicolas Collection bottles are recorked by them from their underground cave from their other same bottles, they always seem young.
10/23/21, 9:50 AM - Not sure how you know the color on my bottle was “in line with all D’Yquem [sic] vintages” since I did not provide a photo. This bottle was noticeably darker than my previous excellent bottles so I concluded it was not correct. Bottle conditions can vary substantially even from the same parcel.
7/12/21, 7:23 AM - Hi ow. Can’t get too much worse so if I had any I would sell it or give it away. But I had a different vintage years ago that was actually much better balanced. Still, I am wondering if this particular bottle may have been heat damaged.
2/15/21, 8:32 AM - Thank you, markcic. That D-Mag will be quite a treat. Unfortunate to have to postpone opening it, but surely it will be lively for years to come.
12/28/20, 7:21 AM - Hi Frank, I enjoy your comments and stories on WB. I find Tarlant Louis is ideal from age 12-20 so if your bottle is base year this century, you’ll be fine. If not, drink soon!
12/1/20, 10:20 AM - Thanks for info. I don’t know who was the importer. A bottle from a different source a couple of years ago was sublime, hence my disappointment.
11/29/20, 11:52 AM - While it’s easy drinking now I’m hoping 3-5 years will give it more depth. I’ve been following Lafon Meursault since the eighties but these modern ones are so different from them it’s more challenging for me to predict their future.
2/20/19, 4:07 PM - Replevin - the practice you describe is ideal and is, or was, exactly how they do it at Lafite. I do not know what they do at Cheval Blanc, or even if this bottle was recorked at Cheval Blanc. Consistent with previous bottles from the same lot, it seemed remarkably fresh, so I am unsure. In any case, it was terrific.
11/11/20, 7:36 PM - Hi josh, the only way I could tell was the inscription on the side of the cork. Obviously, you don’t know until you pull it. I think the added wine would presumably integrate after 20 years, though.
8/20/20, 12:32 PM - Well, impossible to know for sure. I hope you’re right since DdeCB is usually reliably good.
5/28/20, 5:53 PM - Hi, f., I know you’re a believer in long decanting. This one saw only a brief time since it was double decanted shortly before service. Usually an older wine softens in air, do you find it can firm up too? Note that I drank it slowly over several hours and it did not change.
5/27/20, 10:05 AM - I bet you will like it even if the relatives don’t notice.
2/8/20, 8:33 PM - Ha, Jd, you read my mind. I’m selling off practically all my Burgundy in order to buy good wine, AKA, old Bordeaux.
1/30/20, 7:35 PM - The Dom is much more backward than the Cristal in 2008 although ultimately maybe as good in the more delicate citric profile of DP. Ideally I’d give the Dom at least 10 more years, 15 even better although of course you can enjoy it now for its youthful charm.
1/30/20, 5:58 PM - Hi Lite, yes the ‘08 is of course still very young in taste. For my palate, probably 6-8 years from early peak at which time I will guess I would rate it in the mid nineties. But who knows, it could even go higher and become a masterpiece since it’s so promising.
1/13/20, 2:16 PM - Thanks for the information. I have limited experience with Barolo but this is how the Mascarello appeared to me. I was also surprised. On the other hand the ‘01 Giacosa Falleto next to it was stern, earthy and acidic, a marked contrast, as was the ‘85 Aldo Conterno Bussia Soprano, very old fashioned indeed.
1/8/20, 12:44 PM - Sorry, I can’t remember the importer. I agree there is quite a bit of bottle variation of ‘83 Margaux, this was one of the best ones.
12/23/19, 2:41 PM - Hi, I am told the wines were decanted 3 hours. (This was a store tasting.)
11/18/19, 7:58 AM - Hello g-man, this bottle was a fairly recent auction purchase. It looked pristine from the outside. Unfortunately, I foolishly neglected to buy any on release, never expecting it to be this good. Interesting you find such an extremely long decant to be helpful.
10/18/19, 3:44 PM - I’m suggesting bottle to bottle. This ‘70 was great, most are not. Similar problems with ‘61 and ‘66 vintages for Montrose, though.
8/7/19, 12:17 PM - Hi, MrBuzz, I can’t find the information on the Sine Qua Non website so I used the numbers in the Wine Advocate.
7/19/19, 9:29 AM - Thanks, f. With old wines such as this, I do not give them decanter time and just let them breathe in the glass and bottle after double decanting. I probably am missing some instances of miraculous resurrection.
6/1/19, 9:09 AM - It’s 2005 base vintage but I did not note the disgorgement date. It was a very recent purchase so probably the latest disgorgement date.
6/4/19, 1:32 PM - You’re probably right, thanks for info.
4/2/19, 11:32 AM - Bordeaux_Jon, if you, like me, tend to strongly prefer Bordeaux to California, then Abreu (and other cults) will never be thrilling. I try to understand them in a California context. Abreu is one of the better ones but probably not worth the price.
7/25/18, 2:44 PM - Fixed it. Posted previously incorrectly as vintage 1994.
7/25/18, 2:43 PM - Fixed it. Previously posted incorrectly as vintage 1994.
7/23/18, 4:43 PM - Thanks for reading my notes, markcic.According to CT, I have 27 notes on ‘70 Ducru, all from standard bottles. The most recent one was two days ago and was outstanding. If well stored, your DMag should be great. Even in this format, there is no more to gain from additional bottle age, so look for an excuse to pop the cork. I hope you decide to post your note on CT so I can read it.
4/15/18, 6:59 AM - This bottle was from the WineBid stash, as was the outstanding bottle I tasted last year. I can’t believe one year of age made so much difference, so it’s probably bottle variation.
8/18/17, 3:52 PM - This bottle was brought to th e tasting unopened since we were not sure we would get to it. But it never improved over the couple of hours we were able to follow it. My experience is that time does not miraculously wake up ornery wines like this. Clearly we had a less successful bottle. Thanks for the input.
6/30/17, 1:07 PM - Hi John, this was a 750ml bottle.
4/13/17, 2:05 PM - Neecies, thanks for your comment. I was wondering what to do with my remaining bottles.
2/12/17, 7:11 PM - Hi, this was a bottle I purchased on release. I opened it at the restaurant and we drank it over about an hour but it did not change. This was the first bottle from the parcel that I opened.
1/23/17, 6:18 AM - I wish I knew what went wrong. Perhaps slightly corked but below the level where I could smell TCA.
10/12/16, 7:38 PM - Thanks for your advice, oldwines. I am encouraged and will try to be more patient next time.
11/2/14, 3:15 PM - dchain - agree, i've rated '82 Trotanoy 6 times on CT, anywhere between 87 and 94. It's so variable I don't know what to make of it.
9/29/14, 10:13 AM - I can see how this note could be confusing. This bottle was a 375 ml. I was having tuna for dinner that night and wanted to drink the rosé instead. Since I was limited to a half bottle that night and have a lot of Krug white MV 375s, I have this one to the chef and drank the rosé instead.
2/27/14, 6:20 PM - Gee, SLIMES, I didn't know the half bottles came in 2 different shapes. If you can describe the difference, I can tell you.
2/28/14, 2:02 PM - Thanks for the info. My half bottles are the old style shape even though I bought them just a couple of months ago.
9/22/13, 11:34 AM - So now you like white Pessac other than Haut-Brion? Too bad it oxidizes just as poorly as white Burg. Andrew has my former collection now.
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