5/19/24, 3:10 PM - Are you sure premox is a cork issue? I thought the jury was out on the premox causes.
5/13/24, 3:08 PM - Yes, I should have mentioned that. I decanted the wine for an hour prior to drinking, and it certainly needed it.
3/21/24, 5:02 PM - But isn’t sweet vanilla the mark of oak? Anyway, that is what I was talking about and I really thought it was too much. My taste.
3/21/24, 4:57 PM - I agree with you. This is very oaky and needs 10 years or more, assuming the fruit holds out. Which I think it will. But it will be good and worth the wait.
3/2/24, 10:59 AM - Looks like Rare Wine Co has some on their site again but it is $1200 now
2/27/24, 4:54 PM - Cheers to you too. I have a few more bottles to drink soon but happy to have them. Opening my first 2009 Dauvissat Les Clos shortly and looking forward to that.
10/21/23, 1:52 PM - I had this last night at a restaurant and this was my impression as well. It was very dense to start, and as it opened I got a lot of smoky flavors which were too overbearing. It didn’t occur to me that this was smoke taint until I thought more about the vintage and wondered the same thing. It I can’t I angine this much smokiness would be nothing else.
10/8/23, 4:53 PM - Hi Chablis28. You are a great reviewer and I follow you in CellarTracker. I drank my first bottle of this about the same time you did and I understand your perspective. I just posted my review of my second bottle in 2023, and I can tell you that this was worth the wait. It is getting better, slowly, and probably has another 10-20 years ahead. I understand the distinction between Barolo and Barbaresco because I also appreciate the more feminine style of many Barbarescos but this isn’t one. Maybe it isn’t as clear cut as we think. I can tell you from experience that the 1971 Franco Fiorina Barbaresco was better than the Barolo from the same year (last time I tried them which was probably 6 years ago). So whose to say? Anyway, if you have another, worth another try.
7/14/23, 4:35 AM - No, it has good acidity but it has mellowed very much from the early years.
6/26/22, 2:01 PM - Thank you for your excellent and informative note. I love Manzanilla and bought this on the recommendation of a good local wine merchant. I am not familiar with it but when I tasted it I was very happy. Certainly not a typical Manzanilla and while I also love Marmite I didn’t see the link but I can see what you mean. I found a faint smokiness to the flavor but it isn’t really smoky either. But a rich, umami depth of flavor with smoked salt on top. Whatever the words, this is good stuff.If you are expecting Manzanilla you might be disappointed but it is quite lovely. I see Harley1199 (much respect) doesn’t like it but he did taste the “hydrocarbons” that I find as well. I think this could be very good with Texas barbecue.
3/13/22, 5:55 PM - As always, great tasting note. It is still drinking wonderfully well right now and I plan on drinking a lot of this over the next 18 months.
7/13/21, 5:38 PM - Thank you for the kind regards. I moved to Virginia this past year, from California, so trying some new wines from local retailers
2/3/21, 5:43 AM - I have no idea what kind of oak they use. I would be surprised if it is American though, as Duncan and Nathan have a European wine oriented style.
8/31/20, 3:55 PM - Commenting on my own comment - I have been corrected - this release is based on 2002/2004/2005 vintages. Thank you.
7/27/20, 7:24 AM - Yes, makes sense. Don’t get me wrong though - this is a nice bottle of wine and easy to drink. I had another last night to check again, and came to the same conclusion. It sure disappeared fast.
7/18/20, 8:28 AM - It does indeed age well. I have had several bottles of this over 10 years old that were wonderful. Even a 1990 that was very good. Love this producer.
5/23/20, 3:19 PM - Thank you for the note. I have a case too, but am holding off since I had the same experience a few years ago. I think you are right - this needs another decade or more. The old ones are fabulous though, so likely worth the wait.
5/17/20, 2:58 PM - I went to a Rare Wine Company Rinaldi tasting many years ago, and was indeed able to try side by side with the Rinaldi version. The Barisone was better. Of course, bottle variation happens, so this isn’t a definitive answer by any means. I liked the Barisone so much I bought a case. Glad I still have two left.
5/9/20, 9:53 AM - Hi SteveG. Yes, I got your friend request and looked at your tasting notes. Lots of overlap for sure. Your comment on cloudiness was a good warning for me when I decanted it, as I suspected sediment and was on the lookout for it. There really was quite a lot - I was surprised. Nice to connect with you!
4/25/20, 8:34 AM - Hi Oldwines. I did not decant this last bottle, and that was probably a mistake. I usually decant all my Chardonnays and I think the first bottle got fair treatment. I also drink somewhere between cold and cool cellar temperature in general, but this second bottle was probably too cold. All that being said, I just think this vintage is not my style. It wasn’t bad by any means, it just wasn’t great. I am sure lots of people will enjoy it and no reason they shouldn’t. I like more crisp acidity and this doesn’t have it. The almond flavor was too pronounced, but that might have changed with more aeration. I will be checking in on my 2010 and 2013 again in light of this to see what I think of them, but I remember those being very different.
3/17/20, 3:29 PM - Not sure. I will have to try a bottle tonight and see what I think. Currently under “shelter in place” quarantine in San Francisco Bay Area so there will be lots of drinking in the next few weeks.
3/8/20, 8:41 AM - I agree with your comments on JD. His scores are remarkably dissimilar to my taste.
12/22/19, 12:35 PM - Nice to hear from you. That was a wonderful tasting. The 1990 was so good!My husband preferred the 375ème last night. It was a tough call either way.
12/8/19, 7:39 AM - It was excellent. I bought some.
12/8/19, 5:03 PM - Duncan said that 2018 was the best vintage ever for them. It was a great line up overall. The Peter Martin Ray Pinot Noir was outstanding as well.
11/25/19, 6:18 AM - Yes, that could certainly be the case. Or maybe just my mood that day. I’ll see how the last two taste. Still a very nice wine regardless.
6/15/19, 10:16 AM - Agreed. This wine is outstanding. Glad I bought a few back in 1984. And wish I had more than one left.
5/10/19, 12:22 PM - I am the woman with very short hair dressed in black. I was at the table behind you.
5/10/19, 12:42 PM - Probably will. As long as Mannie keeps inviting me.
6/8/19, 10:55 AM - The '42 was also very good, but a bit lighter than the '55 and not as rich. On the '64, the bottle I got to try was a bit off - had some mustiness to it - so I didn't get a fair shot at it. I believe there were two bottles of each wine for the whole group, so I assume there was another bottle of '64 that was better.Similar problem with the '78 - people were saying it was great, but I only got to try the bottle that was corked. So sad. But I bought a few, so I will get my chance.
6/15/19, 8:52 AM - Yes, I bought one ‘55 and one ‘68. Wish I could have a case of each but out of my price league. I would certainly buy the ‘42 but on a relative price to value basis the ‘55 was the better way to go. But you certainly should try the ‘42 as it was excellent too. I really loaded up on the 2001, 2004, and 2010 with a case each as they were wonderful and very well priced. Got a few ‘78’s too, even if I couldn’t taste that one. I am sure the ‘64 is well worth buying. I have bottles of the ‘64 Reserva and it is outstanding so the Gran Reserva likely even better. Really, there were no bottles at the dinner that I would not be happy to drink again. The 1998 was not a favorite on a relative basis - a bit of barnyard, which I often like - but it was also very good.
6/8/19, 11:22 AM - Mmmm, yes, me too. I am the acid queen.
2/18/19, 8:08 PM - This sounds to me like a bad bottle. The one I had tonight was nothing like this
12/20/18, 9:28 PM - I am not going to claim expertise on wine pairings, for sure. But usually rich cream dishes like more acid wines to contrast with the rich food, and it sounds like this fits that description. I think this ‘05 La Forest would work as it has plenty of acid along with the more more exotic richer style of Chablis so I think it works. Probably better than a Meursault for me. And the Forest is great now.
12/7/18, 5:57 PM - I had the same experience with several well stored bottles. Again, it is good, just not up to the same standard as other years for me.
11/3/18, 7:35 AM - Thank you. I looked all over for it but now that you point it out I see the numbers faintly embossed into the label. Disgorged November 2013
8/14/18, 5:16 AM - Yes, I bought this way back when it was released and have cellared it since. I was also a Bordeaux fan back then. I lost half of my meager 82 Bordeaux in a relationship breakup and swore after that never to own wine with someone else so I wouldn’t have to lose any of it. Good thing. At least I still have a few bottles of the 82 GL as well.
8/10/18, 5:40 PM - Not sure about Bordeaux style since that is Sauvignon Blanc-Sémillon, but your comment on Donnhoff is apt. The AR guys told us last time we saw them that they did DNA tests on the field blend and it turned out to have a large proportion of Riesling. Love this wine.
7/23/18, 6:49 PM - yes, it has acid for sure. Not bad, just a bit simple and stolid and I want more for the price.
6/29/18, 5:28 PM - I did buy more. They are unusual, but I like them. Especially with the right food. I would also decant for a couple hours in the frig. It makes a big difference.
7/3/18, 11:45 AM - Yes, it does. Given how high acid and austere these are, I usually pair them with richer foods. One of my notes on the 1995 mentioned a pork with cream sauce, which makes sense. I think anything with a cream sauce is a good bet, and things that work with a Loire Chenin Blanc or an aged LdH Tondonia Blanco. Definitely not a wine to drink without food. You are right - food makes such a startling difference with wine that it is hard to separate them. I like to cook, so I rarely drink wine without food. I got poetic a couple nights ago and wrote a very long note about pairing 2005 Dauvissat La Forest with a swordfish teriyaki that talked about this. Whatever. Hard not to love and drink wine and not stop talking. Haha.
6/26/18, 5:10 PM - I think you just got a bad bottle. Mine are sensational and still lots of life
4/6/18, 5:20 PM - I agree with you. Trying another bottle, and it is getting less bright and more fat. Maybe a bit more oak with the new regime, or picked riper. Not typical Maya to my tastes
9/30/17, 8:59 AM - I managed to find another case of these at a good price! Still drinking well.
8/24/17, 1:49 PM - Agreed, and the price is right!
7/21/17, 6:20 PM - Had this wine at a restaurant in 2017, and these notes still apply well. A bit more open with 4 years on, but it is still bright, sharp and needs food for sure. Cranberry and surprisingly black pepper as well. Good with all the Pork shoulder and salumeria we had with dinner.
7/17/17, 9:55 PM - My experience with Maya Merlot is that, just like the Cabernet, they don't drink well young. I wouldn't even think about opening one before 10 years after vintage and even that can be early. I haven't tasted any of my 2012's yet for this reason, but that may explain your experience with this one. Wait til at least 2022.
2/15/17, 10:21 PM - He made this in 89 as well. I have a bottle. The 95 sounds wonderful. Can't wait.
1/7/17, 6:09 PM - Sounds like you got an extra special bottle
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